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		<title>By: Bria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ people, it&#039;s just a human who had a second shot at life and took it. Settle down!</description>
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		<title>By: john Pope</title>
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		<dc:creator>john Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the many problems with this film is that fact that the writer and Cameron have created an over-idealised and over romanticised view of aboriginal peoples living in a so-called &quot;state of nature&quot;.  Real aboriginal peoples are not multi-cultural by nature and they do not naturally live in tune with nature. Aboriginal people are no more or no less ethnocentric or intolerant than Europeans.They have been responsible for much environmental depredation everywhere. It was only their small numbers and low levels of technology that prevented them from causing the scale of ecological damage that is possible now.

The hoary old &quot;noble savage myth&quot; is given a new set of legs in this extravaganza but it  does not provide us with any serious critique of the modern world.  A return to mindless pantheism or nature worship, is no step forward, One only has to look at the rise of this nonsense in Nazi Germany and post-war conservative thinking in Germany concerned with nature.  Nietzsche does speculate about a world in which god is dead but he states that we must come to grips with this not descend back into a world of tree gods and forest spirits.  Humans can live without gods of any sort, but most are not capable of doing this, that is what disgusted Nietzsche in his writings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the many problems with this film is that fact that the writer and Cameron have created an over-idealised and over romanticised view of aboriginal peoples living in a so-called &#8220;state of nature&#8221;.  Real aboriginal peoples are not multi-cultural by nature and they do not naturally live in tune with nature. Aboriginal people are no more or no less ethnocentric or intolerant than Europeans.They have been responsible for much environmental depredation everywhere. It was only their small numbers and low levels of technology that prevented them from causing the scale of ecological damage that is possible now.</p>
<p>The hoary old &#8220;noble savage myth&#8221; is given a new set of legs in this extravaganza but it  does not provide us with any serious critique of the modern world.  A return to mindless pantheism or nature worship, is no step forward, One only has to look at the rise of this nonsense in Nazi Germany and post-war conservative thinking in Germany concerned with nature.  Nietzsche does speculate about a world in which god is dead but he states that we must come to grips with this not descend back into a world of tree gods and forest spirits.  Humans can live without gods of any sort, but most are not capable of doing this, that is what disgusted Nietzsche in his writings.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Kirschner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus Kirschner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify - Worthington was cast in and started shooting Avatar first. It just took longer to come out because of all the CGI.</description>
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		<title>By: Indulekha Dutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indulekha Dutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Markus about the Blind Side and Precious, though I think in Precious the treatment of &#039;whiteness&#039; and &#039;blackness&#039; needs a lot more comment than what can be done here. As for Avatar, I think James Cameron was asking for all the criticism he is getting. The film is *about* race, and race *on earth.* His choices make that clear: the references to the Na&#039;vi as &#039;aboriginal&#039;, &#039;indigenous&#039; etc., and selection of black and aboriginal actors (the author points to all of this). Even the term &#039;Na&#039;vi&#039; is reminiscent of &#039;native.&#039;  One critic (I believe Will Heaven) saw the Na&#039;vi as a &quot;childish pastiche of the ethnic&quot; and I couldn&#039;t agree more. And I think the racial politics of Avatar *are* important to discuss precisely *because* it is such a high profile movie. Anyway, I think Mitu Sengupta is right to say Cameron wants it both ways... he makes a film that&#039;s all about race and then pretends it&#039;s about &#039;aliens.&#039; As for Worthington, he was already known for his roles in Terminator. All in all, I think Mitu Sengupta is too kind to the film, though she argues her case well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Markus about the Blind Side and Precious, though I think in Precious the treatment of &#8216;whiteness&#8217; and &#8216;blackness&#8217; needs a lot more comment than what can be done here. As for Avatar, I think James Cameron was asking for all the criticism he is getting. The film is *about* race, and race *on earth.* His choices make that clear: the references to the Na&#8217;vi as &#8216;aboriginal&#8217;, &#8216;indigenous&#8217; etc., and selection of black and aboriginal actors (the author points to all of this). Even the term &#8216;Na&#8217;vi&#8217; is reminiscent of &#8216;native.&#8217;  One critic (I believe Will Heaven) saw the Na&#8217;vi as a &#8220;childish pastiche of the ethnic&#8221; and I couldn&#8217;t agree more. And I think the racial politics of Avatar *are* important to discuss precisely *because* it is such a high profile movie. Anyway, I think Mitu Sengupta is right to say Cameron wants it both ways&#8230; he makes a film that&#8217;s all about race and then pretends it&#8217;s about &#8216;aliens.&#8217; As for Worthington, he was already known for his roles in Terminator. All in all, I think Mitu Sengupta is too kind to the film, though she argues her case well.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Kirschner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus Kirschner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patronizing to a community of imagined individuals, yes. Racist? Really? These &quot;Na&#039;vi&quot; don&#039;t even exist, despite Cameron&#039;s attempt to bring them to life (going so far as to speak their language in his Golden Globes acceptance speech). You&#039;re right when you suggest that what lies at the heart of the racism debate is anxiety about the death of monotheism. I found the film to be a  positive spin on what happens when &quot;God&quot; is dead - you find a new one - in the trees, the forest, the animals...

Despite his good looks and charisma, casting Sam Worthington was not logical economically, at least not in Hollywood. When he was cast in the film he was known in Australia, but not internationally. Casting Worthington, in Hollywood&#039;s eyes, was an act of subversion. Think back to how hugely popular Leo DiCaprio was at the time Titanic was made. Big difference. 

There are far more truly racist, academy-nominated films playing at your local cinema right now. Thank you Andrew for referencing The Blind Side. Apparently Sandra Bullock wasn&#039;t white enough on her own, they had to bleach her hair to make the difference between her and her black ward more striking. And what about Precious? The first movie in history nominated (for Best Picture) by a black director about an obese, illiterate dark-skinned teenager who has two children by her father and learns to become &quot;a human&quot; by her light-skinned teacher and social worker. And initially it&#039;s her white principal who gets her out of the public school she&#039;s drowning in and leads her to these light-skinned helpers. Spike Lee must be throwing up in his mouth right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patronizing to a community of imagined individuals, yes. Racist? Really? These &#8220;Na&#8217;vi&#8221; don&#8217;t even exist, despite Cameron&#8217;s attempt to bring them to life (going so far as to speak their language in his Golden Globes acceptance speech). You&#8217;re right when you suggest that what lies at the heart of the racism debate is anxiety about the death of monotheism. I found the film to be a  positive spin on what happens when &#8220;God&#8221; is dead &#8211; you find a new one &#8211; in the trees, the forest, the animals&#8230;</p>
<p>Despite his good looks and charisma, casting Sam Worthington was not logical economically, at least not in Hollywood. When he was cast in the film he was known in Australia, but not internationally. Casting Worthington, in Hollywood&#8217;s eyes, was an act of subversion. Think back to how hugely popular Leo DiCaprio was at the time Titanic was made. Big difference. </p>
<p>There are far more truly racist, academy-nominated films playing at your local cinema right now. Thank you Andrew for referencing The Blind Side. Apparently Sandra Bullock wasn&#8217;t white enough on her own, they had to bleach her hair to make the difference between her and her black ward more striking. And what about Precious? The first movie in history nominated (for Best Picture) by a black director about an obese, illiterate dark-skinned teenager who has two children by her father and learns to become &#8220;a human&#8221; by her light-skinned teacher and social worker. And initially it&#8217;s her white principal who gets her out of the public school she&#8217;s drowning in and leads her to these light-skinned helpers. Spike Lee must be throwing up in his mouth right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitu Sengupta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitu Sengupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siobhan, the sequel&#039;s going to be interesting. Will the newly Na&#039;vified Jake now save the human &quot;race&quot;? John, how lucky for Lawrence, though Peter O&#039;Toole is more sinister than handsome (remember him from Night of the Generals?). Andrew, will check out Blind Side for sure: more misguided cinematic altruism? Indu, I hadn&#039;t thought of that angle. Hmm... I think it&#039;s also significant that Jake is disabled. Will think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siobhan, the sequel&#8217;s going to be interesting. Will the newly Na&#8217;vified Jake now save the human &#8220;race&#8221;? John, how lucky for Lawrence, though Peter O&#8217;Toole is more sinister than handsome (remember him from Night of the Generals?). Andrew, will check out Blind Side for sure: more misguided cinematic altruism? Indu, I hadn&#8217;t thought of that angle. Hmm&#8230; I think it&#8217;s also significant that Jake is disabled. Will think.</p>
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		<title>By: Indulekha Dutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indulekha Dutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful analysis. Not kneejerk, like a lot I have seen. In one sense, though, the use of the white (American, military) man in the lead seems essential, if the director&#039;s aim is critique -- for it is they who are perhaps most distant from the aboriginalvision and most in need of being convinced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful analysis. Not kneejerk, like a lot I have seen. In one sense, though, the use of the white (American, military) man in the lead seems essential, if the director&#8217;s aim is critique &#8212; for it is they who are perhaps most distant from the aboriginalvision and most in need of being convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: john pope</title>
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		<dc:creator>john pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real T.E. Lawrence was a rather short and ordinary if not unattractive man but he had the good fortune denied to so many famous historical figures of having what some have called the best posthumous casting in history by having a very young and handsome Peter O&#039;Toole play him in the film.  Many historians of Lawerence of Arabia have given up pointing out that he looked nothing like Peter O&#039;Toole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real T.E. Lawrence was a rather short and ordinary if not unattractive man but he had the good fortune denied to so many famous historical figures of having what some have called the best posthumous casting in history by having a very young and handsome Peter O&#8217;Toole play him in the film.  Many historians of Lawerence of Arabia have given up pointing out that he looked nothing like Peter O&#8217;Toole.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most the media&#039;s attention has been focused on &quot;Avatar&quot; simply due to the film box office haul and incredible hype machine. Naturally, this also means that a far more odious example of what I am calling &quot;The Redemptive Power of White People&quot; has largely been ignored - namely the Sandra Bullock vehicle &quot;The Blind Side.&quot; A movie which in the words of one critic &quot;begs us to feel sorry for black people and feel grateful that there are white people in the world who can take of them.&quot; Please, someone, anyone, notice that horrible, horrible movie for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most the media&#8217;s attention has been focused on &#8220;Avatar&#8221; simply due to the film box office haul and incredible hype machine. Naturally, this also means that a far more odious example of what I am calling &#8220;The Redemptive Power of White People&#8221; has largely been ignored &#8211; namely the Sandra Bullock vehicle &#8220;The Blind Side.&#8221; A movie which in the words of one critic &#8220;begs us to feel sorry for black people and feel grateful that there are white people in the world who can take of them.&#8221; Please, someone, anyone, notice that horrible, horrible movie for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Siobhan O'Flynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siobhan O'Flynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your points re. the ambivalence are well- taken as I&#039;ve also been embroiled in a debate over Avatar. What do you make of the film&#039;s framing context as one component in a to-be-extended commercial enterprise? I am slightly more skeptical given that our having it both ways is also our participation in &amp; contribution to a transnational capitalism that functions as the opposite of the Na&#039;vi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your points re. the ambivalence are well- taken as I&#8217;ve also been embroiled in a debate over Avatar. What do you make of the film&#8217;s framing context as one component in a to-be-extended commercial enterprise? I am slightly more skeptical given that our having it both ways is also our participation in &amp; contribution to a transnational capitalism that functions as the opposite of the Na&#8217;vi.</p>
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